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How To Have “The Talk” With Your Daughter

Lissa Rankin's picture

the talk

As part of my UbyKotex corporate spokesperson job, I was recently interviewed by Breezy Mama about how to have “the talk” about puberty, periods, and sexual development with your daughter. Since I’m already having the talk and many of you might need to do the same, I wanted to share it with you here!

Breezy Mama: You state that many girls get their period at age 8, but at what age should we explain what a period is?

Dr. Lissa: I think you can’t start too early. My 5 year old daughter already knows that when girls get older, they start having blood come out of their vagina, and when that happens, they can have babies. We haven’t had the birds and the bees talk, because it hasn’t come up yet, but she knows about periods and hopefully wouldn’t be caught off guard when hers appears one day.

Breezy Mama: How do we start the “period” talk?

Dr. Lissa: Again, I think it depends on your child - you know your child better than anyone else. But I think we need to have the talk no later than 8, since some girls will start their periods at this age. Certainly, watch for physical signs of development - pubic and axillary hair, breast buds, mood swings, acne. If you notice any of these, her period could be right around the corner, so start talking!

Breezy Mama: When having the talk, what exactly do we say? Is there a book for moms to brush up on their own knowledge?

Dr. Lissa: My mother gave me the book What’s Happening To Me, which is still a bestseller after all these years! She read it with me and gave me the opportunity to ask questions. If you pick a special day to make this happen - maybe bake cookies together, go out to lunch, take a hike - then you can make the whole experience fun, which will set you up for a lifetime of intimate talks with your daughter. If you’re not sure what to say or how to get started, you can find helpful tips and connect with other Moms at Kotex.com/tween.  Or if you want to learn more about the female body yourself so you feel more empowered to help your daughter, read my book What’s Up Down There? Questions You’d Only Ask Your Gynecologist If She Was Your Best Friend before having the talk.

Breezy Mama: This is how I can see “the talk” happening to me and my daughter: I would over compensate with the clinical side as a result of feeling embarrassed. Then, I could see my daughter’s eyes glazing over because I’m going into too much detail. How much “clinical talk” should I provide?

Dr. Lissa: You don’t have to offer too much information on your first chat. Tell her the nuggets - that her body will start making hormones and her hormones will cause some changes, like she might start developing breasts, get hair on her vulva, and start bleeding from her vagina. If you’ve still got her attention, tell her what periods mean - that the uterus gets ready every month so the body can make a baby and when there’s no baby, the blood has to come out. Reassure her that this kind of blood is healthy and normal and nothing to be afraid of, but give her a heads up that she’ll want to be prepared when the time comes so she knows what to do.

Offer to take her down the feminine hygiene aisle and show her around, or be prepared at home with products you might want to show her. UbyKotex makes snazzy little pads just for tweens with cool packaging and smaller than usual pads.

Tell her some stories from your childhood. Don’t make it too clinical. Let her know she won’t be alone. Chances are she’ll have lots of questions - or not. Let her run the show. If she glazes over, let the information you’ve given her sink in and give her a book to read and let her read it privately if that makes her more comfortable. Then set up a follow up date with her so you can talk more about it.

For more tips on how to have the talk, read this parent’s guide about how to talk to your tween about periods. Or visit Kotex.com/tween for more information.

Breezy Mama: When our daughters do get their period, should we have them use a tampon or a pad?

Dr. Lissa: Let her choose. Most girls feel more comfortable wearing a pad at first, since putting something inside the vagina can feel foreign and scary. Explain to her the pluses and minuses of both and let her pick. If she’s on the swim team, a ballet dancer, or a competitive gymnast, you might want to encourage her to at least try tampons, so she doesn’t feel like her period is something that keeps her from doing what she loves, which helps empower her to love her body.

Often, moms incorrectly pass on the message to their daughters that tampons make you lose your virginity. This simply isn’t true. While it’s true that wearing tampons may break a girl’s hymen, it’s often already broken from other activities (riding a bike, straddling a balance beam, falling as a child) by the time they start wearing tampons and has nothing to do with virginity.

The more you encourage open conversation, listen to her concerns, put judgment aside, and educate her, the more empowered she will be regarding her femininity, her body, and her life.

Breezy Mama: How heavy is the flow of a girl’s first period? Should we remind them to change their pads/tampons every X hour or would this cause them to die from embarrassment?

Usually, a girl’s first period is pretty light. In fact, she may get notice with a day or two of just light brown spotting, so if you warn her to let you know if this happens, you can help her avoid the humiliation of the embarrassing bright red stain on her white skirt that I endured as a 13 year old!

But every girl is different. She may not notice the lighter days and may wind up surprised with a heavy day of flow.

Should you bug her about changing her pad/ tampon? Talk to her! Ask her whether she’ll find that helpful or mortifying. If she doesn’t want help from you, encourage her to set a timer in her cell phone or watch the clock. This is a chance for her to step up the plate.  Obviously, if she’s 8 when she starts her menses, she’ll need more guidance than if she’s 14. But biologically, she’s a woman. Don’t micromanage her too much or she might not come to you when she really needs you.

Breezy Mama: When a girl first starts getting her period, is it irregular? Should we show them how to track it on the calendar so they don’t get “surprised” when it comes?

Dr. Lissa: Most of the time, periods are irregular for the first year, so tracking on the calendar won’t necessarily help. Once regular menses are established, yes! Absolutely! Teach her how to avoid surprises. But in the beginning, it’s often hard to predict when her menses will start.

Breezy Mama: Lastly, it seems as if girls are getting their periods at a much younger age than when I was growing up. Is there a reason for why this is?

Dr. Lissa: We don’t know for sure, but we speculate that girls are getting their periods much younger because of a combination of xenoestrogens (chemicals in pesticides/ hormones in milk, etc that exert an estrogenic-like effect on the body) and the childhood obesity epidemic. Fat cells actually make estrogen, so heavier children are theoretically more likely to menstruate young.

Breezy Mama: Anything that I’ve missed or that you would like to add?

Dr. Lissa: Please, Moms! As an OB/GYN who just got back from a 20 city book tour where I spoke to women at universities, book stores, and women’s conferences all over the country about What’s Up Down There, I see the consequences of keeping these sensitive subjects in the closets. Dozens of women told me they weren’t prepared when their periods showed up, and they genuinely thought they were dying, which set them up to have unhealthy relationships with their bodies and their feminine selves. As I teach people at OwningPink.com, I think it’s vital to embrace and celebrate our feminine bodies as they change throughout our lives so we can heal, connect, and thrive. Having “the talk” with your daughter not only sets the precedent for an open, intimate relationship between you and your daughter; it also builds the foundation for her to develop a lifetimes of self-love and personal empowerment when it comes to her body and her life.

Have you had “the talk” with your children? What has worked well for you? What challenges have you faced? Do tell!

Encouraging you to help raise empowered women,

Lissa

Lissa Rankin, MD: Founder of OwningPink.commotivational speaker, and author of What’s Up Down There? Questions You’d Only Ask Your Gynecologist If She Was Your Best Friend and Encaustic Art: The Complete Guide To Creating Fine Art With Wax.

 

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Linda's picture

I grew up in a household

I grew up in a household where we didn't talk about *anything*, and bodily functions were especially something to keep quiet about. But I made some choices that were not so easy to hide away (homebirth, breastfeeding) and that were controversial, so there was always talk going on about what we were doing and why. So the natural default for bodily issues became *to talk about it*, both our feelings and the science of it. We also have an open-door bathroom. Little kids are always following you around... harder to shut the door than to keep it open. So eventually of course, they'd ask, "mama, why is there blood on your underwear?" That's given me plenty of opportunities to explain how things work. Menstruation turns out to be a pretty simple story. Every month or so the woman's body starts getting ready for a baby to grow in it, which involves building up a home for the baby that consists of cushy tissue and blood. When the baby doesn't come, then the body releases this tissue so that the next month it can make a fresh start at building this home. Obviously that's an extreme simplification, but it gets the basic idea across in a very non-scary way. And as they're always asking questions (kids are great like that) it segues into conversations about things like why it's once a month (and is it always?) and why is there blood in it and why a baby doesn't come every month and why some women don't have babies, etc.

And let's remember, it's important for *boys* to have this information too!

seagirl's picture

Talking

Hi:

This is so great! I love your explanation of what the body does to prepare for a baby! So simple and easy. it seems that you have done a lot of work getting to the point where you can do this with your kids. Cudos to you!

seagirl's picture

Mom's talk

Hi:

I wanted to share the experience I had when my mom had the talk with me. I was pretty embarrassed, but sat quietly as she talked. I knew she was way nervous, even though she was a nurse. She had books, and showed me the reproductive system and used that to explain what was going to happen. She also told me that she was telling me this because when she was young, she was out on the playground at school, playing baseball, and got hit in the head with a ball. She was taken to the nurse's office, and found blood in her underwear; she thought it was from having been hit in the head with the baseball, so she was pretty freaked because her mom hadn't talked to her. She didn't want that to happen to me, so she talked to me first. I thought that was pretty amazing, after thinking back on it some years later. I knew she had reached across her own discomfort to spare me from mine.

Carz's picture

I did the talk with my

I did the talk with my daughter a couple of years ago, when she was eight. I didn't want her only education about the changes her body will go through to be the coldly clinical stuff I got at school. I still bring it up from time to time and make sure that she knows that it is all a very natural process. I did the same with my son about the changes he will go through.

I must admit that these talks were very hard for me. While sex was talked about when I was growing up the changes inside our bodies were not. I hope that my kids grow up more comfortable about it all than I did.

Ade's picture

I am so glad

I am so glad you are out there helping women with this. It is such a difficult topic. I myself still struggle with a love/more hate relationship with my body. It is killing me and, since it's hard to talk about, I feel that I am in limbo sometimes. I don't feel good about it at all. Throw in the psychological challenges that come with falling in love, being rejected, pressure to have sex, etc. and all these little girls have such a hard time loving themselves. It's very sad.

I don't know if it would have made a difference in my life to have had more positive feminine role models. I definately feel that we all need to take these steps to teach our children to love and respect their bodies and that sex is not digusting or a cause of shame. Life is hard enough already. That should never be an issue.

Lissa Rankin's picture

Own your femininity Juliana

Thank you love for sharing your story, and I'm so sorry for what you experienced. May we all revel in what makes us uniquely female and pass on this appreciation for our womanhood to the young women and girls in our lives..

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juliana's picture

Early menstruation-still reeling from the aftermath.......

Dear Lissa:
It is wonderful that you are involved with this campaign. After reading your post, I struggled to keep my tears at bay. I am almost 50 yrs old, but still feel haunted by my first period when I was about 3 weeks shy of my 11th birthday. I started to develop breast buds about 7, and was about 10-15lbs overweight between the ages of 8 and 10.5 yrs, so I suppose these facts plus coming from a stressful home, set me up to menstruate before I was emotionally ready to do so. I think it is great that you are already teaching your little girl about what body changes to expect--had my mom and grandmother been able to offer this sort of assistance when I was 2 to 3 yrs from getting my period, I do think I would have suffered a lot less than I did. I think I am finally hitting menopause, but even with looking forward to no longer enduring painful periods, I my heart and soul still feels pretty emotionally traumatized from almost 40 years of difficult periods. I appreciated you taking the time to write about the importance of early education......I can't think of anything more important, especially as I struggle to not have a big cry right now, just reflecting on how alone and vulnerable I have felt, and how not OK I feel with my body and femininity, despite almost 4 decades of regular menses. My guess is that I would be feeling very differently about myself, my curves, my womanhood, had I had someone like you in my life when I was a vulnerable little girl and tween. It warms my heart that you are preparing moms to guide their young daughters during this crucial stage of physical and emotional development. I look forward to seeing your continued contributions in this area of education.

Sarah's picture

Menopause as important to discuss as menses

Juliana: your comment reminds me of something I have thought of often over the last couple years. I think menopause is just as important to discuss between women (like pregnancy, birth, breastfeeding, sex...) Having seen my mother go through a very tough time in peri-menopause (hot flashes, difficulty sleeping, loss of appetite, potentially depression/anxiety, getting off sleeping pills) and hearing many other women talk especially about difficulty sleeping and insomnia in menopause, I feel more prepared for that later period (no pun intended) of my life.

In general, I'm very sad to realize that most women do not share with other women about their physiological experiences. Don't we all want to know that "we're normal" when we have this kind of ache or that pleasant experience?

Thanks for all your work in creating an environment favorable to this kind of sharing, Lissa!

Sarah's picture

Being open, comfortable, and knowledgeable

Thanks for this post! I just wanted to share how I learned about periods: my mom (and older sister) were open about it. If moms aren't comfortable with - or knowledgeable about - their own body, then it will be difficult for their daughters to be too. I grew up with pads, etc. by the toilet and knew what they were and why. I was never 'sat down for the talk'... but rather it was part of daily life, as is our body and dealing with what comes up. I know some friends who learned a lot from books and being able to ask questions openly to their mom when it came up.

Of course, I don't think a woman can be forced to be comfortable with her body overnight, but we teach so much more with our daily actions than with a 1 hour chat.

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